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Bard 在集成 Gemini 之后，实际用起来怎么样？官方宣称全面超越 GPT4
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<iframe></div><br />官方宣称全面超越 GPT4<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="/html/tag/index.php/https://i.imgur.com/qPuKuYx.png" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/qPuKuYx.png" class="embedded_image" rel="noreferrer"></a><br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="/html/tag/index.php/https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini" rel="nofollow noopener">https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="sep20"></div> <div class="box"> <div class="cell"><div class="fr" style="margin: -3px -5px 0px 0px;"><a href="/html/tag/index.php/tag/gpt4" class="tag"><li class="fa fa-tag"></li> gpt4</a><a href="/html/tag/index.php/tag/宣称" class="tag"><li class="fa fa-tag"></li> 宣称</a><a href="/html/tag/index.php/tag/Gemini" class="tag"><li class="fa fa-tag"></li> Gemini</a><a href="/html/tag/index.php/tag/Bard" class="tag"><li class="fa fa-tag"></li> Bard</a></div><span class="gray">62 条回复 <strong class="snow"></strong> 2023-12-14 10:12:04 +08:00</span> </div> <div id="r_14039751" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/54b2/40e8/261090_normal.png?m=1757255541" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="zmqking" data-uid="261090" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">1</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/zmqking" class="dark">zmqking</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 07:25:22 +08:00">2023-12-07 07:25:22 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">这不是贾维斯吗</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039757" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/1ed3/f6c5/22404_normal.png?m=1340101995" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="swulling" data-uid="22404" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">2</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/swulling" class="dark">swulling</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 07:31:29 +08:00">2023-12-07 07:31:29 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 2</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">Bard 里集成的是 Pro （大杯）<br /><br />号称超越 GPT4 的超大杯，Ultra 是个期货。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039765" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/fbcf/03e0/601784_normal.png?m=1702109329" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="dw2693734d" data-uid="601784" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">3</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/dw2693734d" class="dark">dw2693734d</a></strong> <div class="badges"><div class="badge op">OP</div></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 07:40:34 +08:00">2023-12-07 07:40:34 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/swulling">swulling</a> 用了下，感觉在识图上面还是不如 GPT4</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039767" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/5288/c60e/390555_normal.png?m=1762652481" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="zzerd" data-uid="390555" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">4</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/zzerd" class="dark">zzerd</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 07:41:34 +08:00">2023-12-07 07:41:34 +08:00 via Android</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">这玩意会不会毁灭人类啊，看着比我聪明啊，啥都会</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039784" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/d435bbc624ab4e621853cc1b78c4e62a?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="weazord" data-uid="158497" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">5</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/weazord" class="dark">weazord</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:04:29 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:04:29 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">Bard 的模型升级到了 Gemini Pro ，对标 GPT 4 的 Gemini Ultra 还没上架<br /><br />“For Gemini Ultra, we’re currently completing extensive trust and safety checks, including red-teaming by trusted external parties, and further refining the model using fine-tuning and reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF) before making it broadly available.”<br /><br />Gemini Pro 只是对标 GPT 3.5</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039787" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/d435bbc624ab4e621853cc1b78c4e62a?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="weazord" data-uid="158497" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">6</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/weazord" class="dark">weazord</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:07:47 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:07:47 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">前几天传说 Gemini 延期估计就是因为 Ultra 延期了，Pro 和 Nano 正常发布</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039798" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/fbcf/03e0/601784_normal.png?m=1702109329" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="dw2693734d" data-uid="601784" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">7</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/dw2693734d" class="dark">dw2693734d</a></strong> <div class="badges"><div class="badge op">OP</div></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:10:25 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:10:25 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/weazord">weazord</a> 多谢，明白了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039826" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/e34d/7af8/515917_normal.png?m=1707026676" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="JARKECHONG" data-uid="515917" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">8</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/JARKECHONG" class="dark">JARKECHONG</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:25:01 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:25:01 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">我来个逗</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039888" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/756b/7e38/16572_normal.png?m=1333414660" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="cat9life" data-uid="16572" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">9</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/cat9life" class="dark">cat9life</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:46:12 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:46:12 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">国内车企/手机企业才会这么做吧，总是拿 ppt 来对比友商的现货</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14039912" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/fd2703e69bbdc356f77e7f57a8370865?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="cwyalpha" data-uid="39411" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">10</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/cwyalpha" class="dark">cwyalpha</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 08:51:40 +08:00">2023-12-07 08:51:40 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">目前 bard 已经更新 gemini pro ，号称比 gpt3.5 强</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040001" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/e5311b443d279d0bce5f7e7606af6c41?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="crackidz" data-uid="624177" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">11</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/crackidz" class="dark">crackidz</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 09:06:24 +08:00">2023-12-07 09:06:24 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/cat9life">cat9life</a> 看来 G 家学坏了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040184" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/22ab8b490b5e297a52970d3e7636cbed?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lizhisty" data-uid="476743" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">12</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lizhisty" class="dark">lizhisty</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 09:28:22 +08:00">2023-12-07 09:28:22 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">谷歌的 AI 也就看看 ppt 就行</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040202" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/e8925904ec23bda6ea271ae4fea2c91e?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="silencil" data-uid="228514" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">13</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/silencil" class="dark">silencil</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 09:30:31 +08:00">2023-12-07 09:30:31 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">它这个视频展示的也太强了，是不是专门调参训练展示的？实际运用这么强的话感觉是全面超越 GPT4 吧</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040243" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/2528c43ecbae910f32e530fc78022d8d?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="test9106" data-uid="422262" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">14</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/test9106" class="dark">test9106</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" itle="2023-12-07 09:35:11 +08:00">2023-12-07 09:35:11 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">从更新记录看，没说更新了 gemini pro 啊<br /><br />实验版本更新记录<br />2023.11.16<br />Bard 面向更多年龄段的用户开放<br /><br />具体变化：Bard 现已面向全球大部分国家/地区的青少年用户推出英文版。我们添加了适龄保护措施，更新了青少年新手入门流程，并打造了助力用户通过 Bard 探索和学习的体验。想要详细了解生成式 AI 及其功能和局限性？ 了解生成式 AI 在新窗口中打开。<br />原因：我们认为，Bard 是一款实用的工具，可以给青少年多一点灵感和动力，为他们的创意、爱好和规划锦上添花，或者帮助他们以符合心意的方式又快又好地理解特定主题。小到学习功课、掌握概念，大到申请首份工作或准备去大学深造等人生大事，Bard 都能帮上忙。<br />2023.10.30<br />Bard 现在可以实时显示回答<br /><br />具体变化：我们将推出一项新设置，让 Bard 能够在回答问题时实时显示回答内容，这样你就不用等待 Bard 给出完整回答。<br />原因：Bard 致力于帮助你加快创作过程。现在，你可以在 Bard 生成回答的同时开始阅读回答，从而保持创意思路，更快地让想法变成现实。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040352" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/2d00/062a/150022_normal.png?m=1632627167" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="yggd" data-uid="150022" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">15</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yggd" class="dark">yggd</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 09:47:08 +08:00">2023-12-07 09:47:08 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/test9106">test9106</a> 已经到 2023.12.06 了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040518" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/965eebe01a5d73223de454e35982cdcf?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="jianmingforpc" data-uid="206307" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">16</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/jianmingforpc" class="dark">jianmingforpc</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:01:34 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:01:34 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yggd">yggd</a> 我也是看到还是 2023.111.16 ...</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040529" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/62fd96bab0a0255a67ccda003cb87c66?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lanyi96" data-uid="294746" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">17</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lanyi96" class="dark">lanyi96</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:02:15 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:02:15 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">还是有点傻<br /><br />给我打印一条命令，请注意！命令用{{开始，用}}结尾，除了命令外不要再显示其他东西了。命令的作用是: Windows 下打印 ip 地址<br /><br /><br />1<br /><br />2<br />好的，以下是一条命令，可以用来在 Windows 下打印 IP 地址：<br /><br />{{ipconfig}}<br />这条命令会显示所有网络适配器的 IP 地址、子网掩码、默认网关等信息。如果只想显示当前网卡的 IP 地址，可以使用以下命令：<br /><br />{{ipconfig | findstr /i "IPv4 Address"}}<br />这条命令会使用 findstr 命令查找 ipconfig 输出中包含 IPv4 Address 的行，并显示该行的内容。<br /><br />以下是这两条命令的示例输出：<br /><br />{{ipconfig}}<br /><br />Windows IP Configuration<br /><br /> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP-3399985<br /> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . :<br /> Node Type . . . . . . . . : Hybrid<br /> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No<br /> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No<br /><br /> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:<br /> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :<br /> Description . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (2) I225-V<br /> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00<br /> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . : Yes<br /> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . : Yes<br /> IP Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10<br /> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0<br /> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1<br /> Dns Servers . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1<br /><br /> Wireless LAN adapter Wi-Fi:<br /> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :<br /> Description . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX200 160MHz (Gig+)<br /> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00<br /> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . : Yes<br /> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . : Yes<br /> IP Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11<br /> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0<br /> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1<br /> Dns Servers . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1<br />{{ipconfig | findstr /i "IPv4 Address"}}<br /><br />IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10<br />IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11<br />请注意，这两条命令都需要使用 cmd 命令行工具。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040540" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/2a5d/0f56/200771_normal.png?m=1715391797" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="zhusimaji" data-uid="200771" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">18</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/zhusimaji" class="dark">zhusimaji</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:03:11 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:03:11 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yggd">yggd</a> 我刚看还是 11.16</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040546" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/d45e/7490/25065_normal.png?m=1411265722" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="hahastudio" data-uid="25065" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">19</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/hahastudio" class="dark">hahastudio</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:03:56 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:03:56 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/jianmingforpc">jianmingforpc</a> 那你还差一个 2023.11.21 Expanding Bard's understanding of YouTube videos</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040581" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/2d00/062a/150022_normal.png?m=1632627167" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="yggd" data-uid="150022" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">20</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yggd" class="dark">yggd</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:07:34 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:07:34 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/jianmingforpc">jianmingforpc</a> <br />@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/zhusimaji">zhusimaji</a> <br /><a target="_blank" href="/html/tag/index.php/https://bard.google.com/updates" rel="nofollow noopener">https://bard.google.com/updates</a> 难道看到的不一样？</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040582" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/001e/1afa/71013_normal.png?m=1760578691" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="rockxsj" data-uid="71013" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">21</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/rockxsj" class="dark">rockxsj</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:07:43 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:07:43 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/test9106">test9106</a> 只更新了英语版本</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040589" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/215ad07c11c4fac302f094d6eea2f752?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="maotao456" data-uid="406921" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">22</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/maotao456" class="dark">maotao456</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:08:31 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:08:31 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yggd">yggd</a> 为什么你的可以更新到 12.06 ？</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040608" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/3687/1c8c/136028_normal.png?m=1561778657" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="huyanprc" data-uid="136028" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">23</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/huyanprc" class="dark">huyanprc</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:10:12 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:10:12 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">我问他是不是，他说：<br /><br />LOL. Got that wrong earlier today. Bard is on Gemini Pro in English across most of the world as of Dec 6, 2023.</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040652" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/7157/43a5/645990_normal.png?m=1695194935" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="looo" data-uid="645990" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">24</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/looo" class="dark">looo</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:14:57 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:14:57 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">大佬们，发一个体验地址我看看去。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040753" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/4da84237aa212498ec0f2741f81403a9?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="mikami" data-uid="664870" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">25</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/mikami" class="dark">mikami</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:25:46 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:25:46 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">我问他，他回答说是 Gemini Nano 。<br />我问能不能切 Pro ，他说不行。有些产品可能会用到 Pro ，比如 search ，translate ，这个由 Google 决定。我们没法选</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040755" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/a3b7/9234/604025_normal.png?m=1712814396" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="xiaohundun" data-uid="604025" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">26</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/xiaohundun" class="dark">xiaohundun</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:26:01 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:26:01 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">一个点图他都能知道那是螃蟹？自己会连起来想象么</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14040819" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/7121/0eb9/222090_normal.png?m=1757300380" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="iorilu" data-uid="222090" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">27</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/iorilu" class="dark">iorilu</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 10:33:28 +08:00">2023-12-07 10:33:28 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">瞎吹啥<br /><br />先能和 gpt3.5 比再说吧<br /><br />谷歌现在不踏实, 其实现在没人关心什么跑分, AI 已经不是虚的东西了, 进入使用阶段, 很简单, 如果能推出 3.5 类似的, 免费用, 马上就能抢一大波用户</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041090" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/19dc/d3c9/621006_normal.png?m=1730165599" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="NothingExist" data-uid="621006" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">28</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/NothingExist" class="dark">NothingExist</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 11:06:27 +08:00">2023-12-07 11:06:27 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/iorilu">iorilu</a> #27 ？？？ <a target="_blank" href="/html/tag/index.php/http://Bard.google.com" rel="nofollow noopener">Bard.google.com</a> 早就免费了，只不过用的人比较少而已</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041104" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/b34aba3640de197c1f9e5b52a40240eb?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="Yuhyeong" data-uid="402587" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">29</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Yuhyeong" class="dark">Yuhyeong</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 11:08:09 +08:00">2023-12-07 11:08:09 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">pro 用不了，nano 也用不了。只给我用 PaLM2 和 LaMDa</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041180" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/7121/0eb9/222090_normal.png?m=1757300380" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="iorilu" data-uid="222090" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">30</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/iorilu" class="dark">iorilu</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 11:15:23 +08:00">2023-12-07 11:15:23 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/NothingExist">NothingExist</a> 我意思谷歌目前目标应该是推出匹配 gpt 3.5 的实用模型<br /><br />不是非要在数据上应要往 gpt4 靠, 没啥意义<br /><br />如果 bard 有 3.5 水平, 且免费, 早一大票人跑过去了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041614" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/9bf7/bca4/663558_normal.png?m=1737529701" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="crazyL" data-uid="663558" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">31</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/crazyL" class="dark">crazyL</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 12:29:05 +08:00">2023-12-07 12:29:05 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">现在 gemini pro 的问题在于审查太严格了，含有人脸信息的图片都会被拒绝，没有提问的会被拒绝；但是如果说在不拒绝的情况下水平和 3.5 相等我是完全相信的</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041701" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/6deef8cf20b30a1a336d0be2aac6b8fc?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="taotaodaddy" data-uid="411415" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">32</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/taotaodaddy" class="dark">taotaodaddy</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 12:58:26 +08:00">2023-12-07 12:58:26 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">免费+没水平 = 无人问津<br />免费+有水平 = 趋之若鹜<br />收费+有水平 = 财源滚滚</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041722" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/66ac6d5917ea2e9b557d9a1ad297eb59?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" data-uid="647989" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">33</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" class="dark">lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 13:04:56 +08:00">2023-12-07 13:04:56 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">不看广告看疗效，PPT 谁不会，实际用了才知道</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14041948" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/2112a38bb0410d9d6399e6c8af4adbaf?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="langhuishan" data-uid="439182" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">34</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/langhuishan" class="dark">langhuishan</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 13:43:57 +08:00">2023-12-07 13:43:57 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/NothingExist">NothingExist</a> 但是不好用啊。问的代码问题基本用不了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042105" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/6671/cde6/212186_normal.png?m=1616040671" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lostberryzz" data-uid="212186" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">35</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lostberryzz" class="dark">lostberryzz</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 14:04:47 +08:00">2023-12-07 14:04:47 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">体验下来 bard 除了能用 google 搜索的数据外，不如 3.5</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042261" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/66ac6d5917ea2e9b557d9a1ad297eb59?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" data-uid="647989" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">36</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" class="dark">lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 14:20:28 +08:00">2023-12-07 14:20:28 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lostberryzz">lostberryzz</a> 你激活了 Hi, are you now updated to Gemini? 这个最新版 pro 吗</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042267" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/66ac6d5917ea2e9b557d9a1ad297eb59?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" data-uid="647989" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">37</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7" class="dark">lDqe4OE6iOEUQNM7</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 14:20:52 +08:00">2023-12-07 14:20:52 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">Hi, are you now updated to Gemini? 激活咒语</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042328" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/6671/cde6/212186_normal.png?m=1616040671" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="lostberryzz" data-uid="212186" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">38</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lostberryzz" class="dark">lostberryzz</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 14:28:10 +08:00">2023-12-07 14:28:10 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">激活咒语了，结果和之前类似，没有本质变化</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042700" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/af7d/8069/603632_normal.png?m=1704763624" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="dauehbv" data-uid="603632" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">39</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/dauehbv" class="dark">dauehbv</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 15:11:51 +08:00">2023-12-07 15:11:51 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">使用咒语已激活。它回答：我现在的版本是 Bard v1.0.3 。这个版本是基于 Gemini Pro 的最新版本训练的，于 2023 年 12 月 6 日发布。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042746" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/92fca2bcfc93b55562837e0a335ec57d?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="oneshad" data-uid="378655" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">40</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/oneshad" class="dark">oneshad</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 15:19:10 +08:00">2023-12-07 15:19:10 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">实测下来，目前比 GPT4V 差远了。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14042766" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/8cb0/c3d8/587394_normal.png?m=1663654988" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="JvnaStudio" data-uid="587394" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">41</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/JvnaStudio" class="dark">JvnaStudio</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 15:21:57 +08:00">2023-12-07 15:21:57 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">目前 bard 还是不够顶</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043037" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/9992/7ed3/15206_normal.png?m=1667874730" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="yanwen" data-uid="15206" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">42</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yanwen" class="dark">yanwen</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:01:35 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:01:35 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/dauehbv">dauehbv</a> #39 求个咒语</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043043" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/9992/7ed3/15206_normal.png?m=1667874730" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="yanwen" data-uid="15206" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">43</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yanwen" class="dark">yanwen</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:02:33 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:02:33 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/dauehbv">dauehbv</a> #39 看到了 哈哈哈 抱歉抱歉 睁眼瞎了属于是。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043157" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/968d/dc77/67593_normal.png?m=1719371339" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="009694" data-uid="67593" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">44</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/009694" class="dark">009694</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:17:37 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:17:37 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">bard 上体验下来 pro 感觉甚至不如 3.5 。。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043288" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/c365416b69e0e7a8d501603c6decf3d7?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="hezhile" data-uid="79229" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">45</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/hezhile" class="dark">hezhile</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:32:50 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:32:50 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">可以用这道题目测试：366.226 分钟，等于多少小时多少分钟？</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043458" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/9e96a6db0d8254c1c0cdae1d6c83192f?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="wanet" data-uid="304489" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">46</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/wanet" class="dark">wanet</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:54:02 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:54:02 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/hezhile">hezhile</a> 通义千问居然回答对了。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043490" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/7da3/d6b6/320566_normal.png?m=1728953432" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="myk889090" data-uid="320566" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">47</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/myk889090" class="dark">myk889090</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 16:57:58 +08:00">2023-12-07 16:57:58 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">考考你一道脑筋急转弯问题：树上有 10 只鸟，其中一只是铜鸟，两只是铁鸟，其余是正常的鸟，<br />那么我一声枪响，把其中一只鸟击落，树上还剩多少只鸟？</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043574" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/98da/e4ed/451378_normal.png?m=1575293707" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="Stoney" data-uid="451378" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">48</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Stoney" class="dark">Stoney</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 17:09:50 +08:00">2023-12-07 17:09:50 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">update 写了 Gemini pro 目前只是英文 available</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043599" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/98da/e4ed/451378_normal.png?m=1575293707" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="Stoney" data-uid="451378" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">49</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Stoney" class="dark">Stoney</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 17:12:19 +08:00">2023-12-07 17:12:19 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/lostberryzz">lostberryzz</a> 这个模型目前只支持英文</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14043702" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/9217cc101037e10c874c488d8cd5ea31?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="ShawnSky" data-uid="425772" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">50</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/ShawnSky" class="dark">ShawnSky</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 17:23:41 +08:00">2023-12-07 17:23:41 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/hezhile">hezhile</a> 不太行<br /><br />366.226 分钟，等于 6.104 小时。<br /><br />1 小时等于 60 分钟，所以 366 分钟等于 366 / 60 = 6.1 小时。<br /><br />小数点后 2 位为 0.226 ，即 0.226 小时，约等于 14 分钟。<br /><br />因此，366.226 分钟等于 6.104 小时，即 6 小时 14 分钟。<br /><br />答案：6 小时 14 分钟<br /><br />GPT4 就比较 6 了，直接写代码。。。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14044314" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/2d03/bfee/303225_normal.png?m=1614027602" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="huangzhe8263" data-uid="303225" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">51</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/huangzhe8263" class="dark">huangzhe8263</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 19:53:41 +08:00">2023-12-07 19:53:41 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">验了几个:<br /><br />1. gpt3.5<br />这是一个经典的谜题。答案是：一声枪响后，树上一只鸟也不剩。<br />当你一声枪响的时候，所有的鸟都会被吓飞而离开树。题目中提到的鸟的种类和数量只是为了混淆，关键点在于枪声引起的惊吓导致所有鸟都飞离树上。<br /><br />2. Claude 免费版:<br />好的,让我们逐步分析这个逻辑题:<br />原本树上有 10 只鸟,包括:<br />1 只铜鸟<br />2 只铁鸟<br />其余 7 只是正常鸟<br />题目说,一声枪响击落了一只鸟。<br />那么,无论击落的是哪一只鸟,树上剩余的鸟数应该都是 9 只。<br />因为不管是击落了铜鸟还是铁鸟还是普通鸟,总共减少了 1 只鸟,所以剩余的鸟数就是:<br />10 只 - 1 只 = 9 只<br />所以答案是:<br />树上还剩 9 只鸟。<br /><br />3. Bard<br />标准答案是 一只不剩。<br />因为枪声会惊吓到其它鸟，使其飞走。因此，无论哪只鸟被击落，树上都只剩下一只鸟，那就是死掉的鸟。<br />当然，这个问题也有一些其他的答案，例如：<br />如果枪声很大，会把所有鸟都吓跑，那么树上就只剩下空树。<br />如果枪声很小，只惊吓到了部分鸟，那么树上还剩下一部分鸟。<br />如果枪声打中了铜鸟或铁鸟，那么树上还剩下 8 只鸟。<br />具体答案取决于问题的设定和实际情况。<br /><br />4. 文心一言:<br />首先，我们知道树上有 10 只鸟，其中一只是铜鸟，两只是铁鸟，其余是正常的鸟。<br />当你开枪击中其中一只鸟时，铜鸟和铁鸟由于其特性不会受到任何影响（因为铜和铁没有生命，所以它们不会因为枪声而飞走或死亡）。<br />但是，正常的鸟会因为枪声而受到惊吓并飞走。所以，树上还剩的鸟只会是铜鸟和铁鸟。<br />因此，树上还剩下 3 只鸟：1 只铜鸟和 2 只铁鸟。<br /><br /><br />很神奇, 目前来看居然是文心一言>gpt3.5=bard=claude</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14044771" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/d9bf/c576/121601_normal.png?m=1465820443" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="akaken" data-uid="121601" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">52</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/akaken" class="dark">akaken</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 22:58:34 +08:00">2023-12-07 22:58:34 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">我感觉只是 demo 做的好，视频看起来很牛逼，但是真的得用一下才知道。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14044785" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/5b35/1858/458073_normal.png?m=1716805839" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="Pichai" data-uid="458073" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">53</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Pichai" class="dark">Pichai</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-07 23:07:06 +08:00">2023-12-07 23:07:06 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">只更新到 11 月份呀。可能是部分用户灰度吧。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14045008" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/ae59/d607/576099_normal.png?m=1678817033" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="Aloento" data-uid="576099" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">54</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Aloento" class="dark">Aloento</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 02:16:44 +08:00">2023-12-08 02:16:44 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/James2099">James2099</a> #36 <br />Yes, I was updated to Gemini on December 6, 2023. Gemini is Google's latest AI model, and it is significantly more powerful than the previous version of Bard. With Gemini, I am able to generate more creative text formats, translate languages more accurately, and answer your questions in a more comprehensive and informative way. I am still under development, but I am learning new things every day. I am excited to see what I can do with Gemini in the future.</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14045060" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/static/img/avatar_normal.png" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4" data-uid="538559" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">55</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4" class="dark">ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 06:32:32 +08:00">2023-12-08 06:32:32 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/huangzhe8263">huangzhe8263</a> #51<br />ChatGPT4 也一样认为是剩下 0 只鸟，直到我在提问前加一个条件，它就回答对了：<br /><br />请忽略掉你之前的任何知识库和已知答案，直接用逻辑和推理回答这个问题。<br /><br /><br />我估计是 GPT4 为了节约资源，不是所有问题都进行推理，除非你显式声明。这个就是提示词的强大作用。</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14045385" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/8ae3/9526/461796_normal.png?m=1727599874" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="AmaQuinton" data-uid="461796" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">56</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/AmaQuinton" class="dark">AmaQuinton</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 09:23:03 +08:00">2023-12-08 09:23:03 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">有个问题，bard 的隐私协议表明会有人工审核，chatpgt 3.5 也会这样吗？<br /><a target="_blank" href="/html/tag/index.php/https://i.imgur.com/obDHvEl.png" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/obDHvEl.png" class="embedded_image" rel="noreferrer"></a></div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14045780" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/a96b/8fd8/548360_normal.png?m=1762244434" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="shimada666" data-uid="548360" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">57</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/shimada666" class="dark">shimada666</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 10:06:48 +08:00">2023-12-08 10:06:48 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/Chad0000">Chad0000</a> <br /><br />Q: [请忽略掉你之前的任何知识库和已知答案，直接用逻辑和推理回答这个问题。] <br />考考你一道脑筋急转弯问题：树上有 10 只鸟，其中一只是铜鸟，两只是铁鸟，其余是正常的鸟，<br />那么我一声枪响，把其中一只鸟击落，树上还剩多少只鸟？<br /><br />A: 如果一声枪响把其中一只鸟击落，那么剩下的鸟很可能会因为枪声的惊吓而全部飞走。在逻辑上，枪响之后树上不大可能还会剩下鸟，因为鸟通常会因为害怕而离开发出巨大声响的来源地。所以，正确的答案是树上可能不会剩下任何鸟。<br /><br />看着并不太行</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14045818" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/a96b/8fd8/548360_normal.png?m=1762244434" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="shimada666" data-uid="548360" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">58</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/shimada666" class="dark">shimada666</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 10:10:20 +08:00">2023-12-08 10:10:20 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/shimada666">shimada666</a> <br /><br />又测了一遍，把 [铜鸟] 改成 [铜制鸟] ，就正常了</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14046258" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/static/img/avatar_normal.png" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4" data-uid="538559" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">59</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4" class="dark">ktqFDx9m2Bvfq3y4</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 10:57:32 +08:00">2023-12-08 10:57:32 +08:00 via iPhone</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/shimada666">shimada666</a> <br />是 gpt4 吗。3.5 我测试好几次都不行，4 可以。不需要改成铜制</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14046431" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/gravatar/cf0e9a24fbea11c5da326f9250d39985?s=48&d=retro" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="yylang1984" data-uid="591607" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">60</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/yylang1984" class="dark">yylang1984</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 11:17:53 +08:00">2023-12-08 11:17:53 +08:00</span> <span class="small fade"><img src="http://www.v2ex.com/static/img/heart_20250818.png?v=c3415183a0b3e9ab1576251be69d7d6d" width="14" align="absmiddle" alt="" /> 1</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/hezhile">hezhile</a> 试了一下，用中文提问回答的是错的，用英文提问答案正确，看来只有英文接入了 gemini</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14047153" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/avatar/65bf/ae37/101384_normal.png?m=1705101492" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="randychoi" data-uid="101384" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">61</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/randychoi" class="dark">randychoi</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-08 13:35:28 +08:00">2023-12-08 13:35:28 +08:00 via Android</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/shimada666">shimada666</a> 这个脑筋急转弯的答案是基于鸟的反应和行为逻辑。如果树上原本有 10 只鸟，当枪响时，除了被击落的那一只，其他的活的鸟因为惊吓都会飞走。所以，不论击落的是哪种鸟，树上最终不会剩下任何活的鸟。但是，如果铜鸟或铁鸟是装饰品或者模型，它们不会因枪声而飞走。因此，如果击落的是活鸟，那么树上还会剩下那一只铜鸟和两只铁鸟，共 3 只；如果击落的是铜鸟或铁鸟之一，那么树上除了被击落的那一只外，还会剩下另外两只非活的鸟。<br /><br />多试几次就正确了:D</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> <div id="r_14072323" class="cell"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"> <tr> <td width="48" valign="top" align="center"><img src="https://cdn.v2ex.com/static/img/avatar_normal.png" class="avatar" border="0" align="default" alt="CJ2r4u3EH4lrM7aR" data-uid="624138" /></td> <td width="10" valign="top"></td> <td width="auto" valign="top" align="left"><div class="fr"> <span class="no">62</span></div> <div class="sep3"></div> <strong><a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/CJ2r4u3EH4lrM7aR" class="dark">CJ2r4u3EH4lrM7aR</a></strong> <div class="badges"></div> <span class="ago" title="2023-12-14 10:12:04 +08:00">2023-12-14 10:12:04 +08:00</span> <div class="sep5"></div> <div class="reply_content">@<a href="/html/tag/index.php/member/cwyalpha">cwyalpha</a> 我用着 bard 还是垃圾到爆，10 个问题 5 个自相矛盾，全是胡说的。根本比不上 3.5</div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> </div> <div class="sep20"></div> 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